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Moi from a Dane in Helsinki
Hi there,

I just found this place and joined at once. Seems like a cool forum :)

I moved to Finland a couple of months ago to work and I'm liking it very much.
Could be nice to befriend other people in similar situations though, so that's why I joined.
Going back and forth every day between Helsinki and Espoo (where I work), but haven't seen much else so far.
Loved the snow last week and keeping my fingers crossed for more to come, as it would be great to do some skiing.

Anybody who can recommend good concert places and or finnish metal concerts that should not be missed?

Nice evening to you all.



Lapland outrage in UK
Hundreds of visitors have told the BBC the site on the Hampshire-Dorset border does not resemble marketing pictures.
More than 2,000 people have complained to Consumer Direct.
Many people want refunds and are calling for the closure of the attraction which opened on Friday.
Ms Davidson said she had thought the park would make a great location for a day out for members of a sports and social club members in Bracknell. "I saw the website and it was fantastic," she said.

This has to be false advertising. We don't even know what our rights are as we haven't been yet."

The theme park's website, which became unavailable on Monday afternoon, had shown pictures of snowy "winter wonderland" scenes and icicles.
It also promised real log cabins, a nativity scene, husky dogs and other animals, as well as a "bustling" Christmas market.
It said: "We can assure you of an absolutely magical scene... just look how real and cold the 'snow' appears to be."
Tickets cost £30 for individuals, £25 for each person for families of four or more and £10 for children under two years old.
Organiser Henry Mears told the BBC: "We don't believe we ripped anyone off. What is not here that we haven't advertised?"
One woman who paid £150 for her family's tickets told the BBC the website was "totally misleading" leaving her children "heartbroken".
Others described it as a "scam", a "joke", "disorganised chaos" and "hell". Many said the animals looked unhappy, complaining that the huskies looked thin and were chained up in a pen.
They said the other facilities, including a broken ice rink, were poor.

The Christmas market was a tent with a few stalls in it, the "tunnel of light" was some fairy lights hanging from some trees and the "log cabins" were green sheds, they complained.
Some visitors also complained that they had to pay more to use some of the facilities once inside the park.
More than 1,000 people have joined one of at least three Facebook groups, which have been set up in protest at Lapland New Forest.
'Professional troublemakers'
Robert Caddy, of Andover, Hampshire, visited the park on Sunday. "The day was supposed to be a Christmas treat for the grandchildren but turned out to be more like a punishment.
They should be charged with misrepresentation under the Consumer Protection Act."

Trading standards officers said they had visited the site after receiving 50 complaints on Monday and were aware of a "large number of others".
But they said they did not have powers to shut the site down.
Consumer Direct, a government-funded advice service, said unsatisfied customers should consider taking the matter to county court if writing a letter was unsuccessful.
Mr Mears, who organises the park's marketing and advertising, told the BBC he was "bemused" by the complaints.
He said the ice rink had since reopened.
He blamed "a few groups of professional troublemakers" for the allegations over the attraction. "Like all people they like to get into queues and just generate a bit of aggravation."


There was also fights in the ginerbread house between angry parents and the elfs. When Santa got punched in the face and the elfs also got punched.

With its scattering of garden sheds, muddy fields and tied up dogs, the utter lack of festive spirit at Lapland New Forest is almost magical.
But as furious customers continue to trudge around the 'attractions' of the controversial £25 a head theme park, it has emerged that several fights have broken out between angry visitors and costumed elves.
In addition, the park's resident Santa Claus has been spotted smoking and was been punched in the face by an irate father who queued with his family for four hours, only to be told he had to pay an extra £10 to have his child's picture taken.
Another unfortunate worker who felt obliged to tell visitors at the gate that they were about to be 'ripped off' has quit after being struck on the head by another unsatisfied customer.
One male employee dressed up as a snowman was seen angrily storming out of the 'attraction' in full costume as the last semblance of a Christmas atmosphere melted away faster than the fake snow.
Yesterday the Mail told how the park has provoked 'rip off' claims from vistors who have felt cheated.
Promotional material told excited visitors, many of whom booked in advance, to expect an ice rink, a 'bustling' Christmas market and a magic tunnel of light.


One mother said she had been forced to shield her daughter's eyes from the sight of Father Christmas enjoying a cigarette break outside his grotto.
And another angry parent slapped a female elf in the face as tension levels rose at the venue which opened on the Dorset-Hampshire border this weekend.
Several staff are believed to have quit their jobs at the park dubbed 'crapland', including security guard Adrian Wood, 49, who said the Christmas theme park was more like a war-zone by the time he left.
He said: 'Santa was punched by a furious father who had been waiting in line for four hours.
'He had got to the front only to be told he couldn't take a picture of his children and that they weren't allowed to sit on Santa's lap.
'The family were then told they would had to get in another queue to get their presents. That was the final straw.


'He marched up to Santa and punched him in the neck and on the chin and the staff and his family had to pull him off - it was unbelievable.'
He continued: 'A 17-year-old girl was working as an elf and was also attacked.
'She was slapped in the face by a woman who was angry that her children were disappointed. How there weren't riots I have no idea.'
Mr Wood, a father-of-three, was employed to work at the entrance gate but felt duty bound to tell arriving visitors what to expect.
He said: 'I was working in a booth at the gate and telling people not to bother wasting their money as it was a rip-off.'
He continued: 'I was sat behind an open window when a family came up to me who were on the way out.
'The father was furious and shouted in front of everyone that I was a 'pikey' which was really hurtful.


This is what i meen






Now this is proper lapland






Can you spot the difference here?



Correspondent
Hi there!
I don't know where to post this ...so let's try here.

Actually, I'm planning to move to Finland on this summer but I don't know where to go. When I've been to Finland when I was young, I was in Rovaniemi and I've been to Inari too. I would like to go there once more in order to remember and to discover other things. Or, I could go elsewhere...really don't know yet. So, I'm looking for a correspondent who would be ready to give me some information and would be ready to welcome a french guy with finnish blood^^in that country. I know, it's a bit direct and maybe unusual but If someone could help me in my quest to go back home, to the land of midnight sun...would be great!

Thanx everyone for reading those words even If you can't help me.

Clément



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